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  A Non J-Dub paying a visit to KingDumb Hall!

  by J-DUBBED in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was thinking of doing a pop-in visit when they're doing their thing(what ever that might be).

  to just see what it is that lures and hooks people, like our son.

  i was worried there is some sort of subliminal messages in audio or video that start to brain-wash a person.

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  never a jw

  As a non JW who dislikes the leadership of this religion with a vengeance, I wish I could be in your position so I can ask for a Bible study and have lots of fun asking them hundreds (I meant hundreds) of tough questions regarding their leaders and their doctrines of the past and the present. I can't do that anymore because I am a well know friend of the "apostates".

  If you are not depressed, not socially needy or awkward, not a 12 year old or younger, not completely ignorant of the world around you, don't have an IQ less than 90, have a low level of education, then your chances of beeing sucked in are very tiny. I don't know much about your son. Something was certainly missing when he was fooled by this religion. You would know better.

  Take a Bible study and have fun. Just be cautious not to let your teacher know that you know too much. Pretend, as they do.

  Regarding getting your son out. Come to this blog often. You will learn about the religion more and more. The insight you get will improve your chances to get your son out.
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  Dammit Jim, I'm a psychopath not an all loving God!

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when did you discover that the god of bible - and the loving god that you had worshiped your entire life - were not the same?

  how did it affect you?.

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  never a jw

  In fairness to God, I must say that he has been quite lenient to Satan for thousands of years. That's evidence of a gracious God who, even though kills millions of innocent people every year, has not given up on the worst offender.
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  Gerrit Losch's "I DO NOT ANSWER TO WATCHTOWER"

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. social
  2. current

  in gerrit losch's public statement to the superior copurt of california.

  http://www.watchtower.exposed/?p=364.

  documents: https://www.dropbox.com/s/49zyexvagn7ux7j/losch%20public%20statement.jpg?dl=0.

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  never a jw

  I think the lawyers can invoke Gerrit's baptism as proof of his relation to the Organization.

  Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?

  Oh I forgot that he baptised when they still believed in Jesus Christ. I guess he is off the hook on a technicality.

  Have you recognized yourself before Jehovah God as a sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him the Father through his Son Jesus Christ?
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  Scientists Should Not Dismiss Genesis So Quickly

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  nasa discovery proves the bible scientifically accurate.

  the debate.

  for decades there has been a long standing debate between science and religion as to the validity of the biblical genesis account of creation.

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  never a jw

  So a scientific statement that sounds rather remotely similar to a little verse in the Bible proves what?... got it. The entire Bible is accurate, comes from God and should be read literally.
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  Deposition of Richard Ashe

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.

  did any of you guys sit down and read this??

  it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .

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  never a jw

  I must say that a stenographer has a tough job. Having said that, I either have to believe that the speakers misspoke quite frequently, or that the stenographer, given what appears to be numerous phonetic mistakes, concentrated in sounds, not even words or sentences. I understand that they have to write exactly what they hear, but we have to take into account, among other things, homophones that have to be put in context in order to get an accurate description of the speaker's message. I may be asking the unreasonable, but context should be important for a stenographer too.
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  Deposition of Richard Ashe

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.

  did any of you guys sit down and read this??

  it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .

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  never a jw

  Orphan Crow,

  In fairness to the opposition and based on the first 1/5 of the transcript that I have read so far, there are place where the person writing the transcript misheard or at the very least fail to figure out the right word from the context. She/he wrote "one and five" instead of "one in five" as the context suggests. In other places he/she may have commited the same error.

  I noticed that the whole thing is in video too. Is the stenographer allowed to see that video to correct obvious transcription errors before printing and distributing the final product?

  It's impossible to determine if the speaker misspoke or the listener misheard, but it's obvious that one of these problems happened quite frequently during the deposition. I haven't read many documents like these, so it's hard to comparatively "grade" this transcription. It, however, has many mistakes that appear to be inconsequential and could be attributed to the stenographer.
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  Deposition of Richard Ashe

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.

  did any of you guys sit down and read this??

  it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .

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  never a jw

  Thank you Orphan Crow for bringing some balance to this thread's discussions and enlightening information about the legal system that is designed to be as fair and as just as possible, even to the people we perceive to be the bad guys. I will keep an eye on you from now on. I get a feeling that I can learn from you.
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  My Breaking Point -- 11/9/14

  by game1914over in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have enjoyed reading your comments during the past four years.

  deep down inside, i have always been agnostic.

  the first few chapters in genesis are contradictory and differing.. no one has ever been able to answer my question: "why was satan ever created?".

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  never a jw

  Miraloma Assembly Hall. Yes that's an assembly hall that was built in a piece of land that cost pennies. That project was done after they sold a piece of prime real estate in a very expensive area in Los Angeles (Woodland Hills). Now the brothers and sisters have to travel 70 or more miles --versus 5 to 20 miles before-- to attend their assemblies in a stinky kingdom hall. The Watchtower makes huge profits by selling in the millions and buying in the thousands, while the brothers have to spend a lot more money to get to the stinky hall. And as if that's not enough, they also contaminate the environment a lot more. The cost of the assembly hall is much cheaper, but the cost of the assemblies to brothers and sisters is more expensive. It's a cult, it's a busines.
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  My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.

  around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.

  he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.

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  Jehovah will provide for sure. Through some sort mental power (as he did with King David when he lift the census) Jehovah will control your mind and tell you to support your parents. You may think that you are doing a good deed but no credit goes to you. It's all Jehovah.

  You have to bring some reality to your parents. It's your duty since you are the mature person in the family and likely the most affected by their irresponsible behavior.
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  Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.

  one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?

  if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.

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  never a jw

  I don't think the religion's policies are entirely responsible for the apparent high suicide rate of JW's and ex-JW's. I think rather the religion pushes those people who already have some predesposition (genetic or life experience) to depression or suicidal actions. I, however, think that religioous leader have a great deal of power to save those people from themselves. That's where the guilt of the Watchtower resides; having the ability to save someone, rather decides to push them over the cliff.